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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 24.06.2025 11:02

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

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I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

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Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

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ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

How was your first cuckolding experience as a husband?

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

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He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

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— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

NOW…

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From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

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I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

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ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Sain (a barber)

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

CONCLUSION:

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I am like a fish out of water,

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

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Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Kabir (a weaver)

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

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ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Now here in this verse

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥